3 - Fabinho

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Re: Velkommen til: Fabinho

Indlæg af nikand » lørdag, 04. aug, 2018 10:50

Gad vide hvornår Fabinho får sit rigtige nummer? Man har åbenbart ikke ville sælge en masse trøjer med det samme.
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Re: Velkommen til: Fabinho

Indlæg af DAGGER! » lørdag, 04. aug, 2018 11:11

nikand skrev:Gad vide hvornår Fabinho får sit rigtige nummer? Man har åbenbart ikke ville sælge en masse trøjer med det samme.
"The case has been made even more curious with pictures of Fabinho wearing the No.21 in training - although Alex Oxlade-Chamberain, out for the season, holds that particular number.

Some observers claim he has also worn kit with the No.3, No.6 and No.33 in training.

Numbers worn on training kits should not be considered any sort of guide, of course - but with just over a week to go until the big kick-off against West Ham, confusion still reigns over the Brazilian's real squad number."

Det bli'r op til PRL start d 12-8. Trøjenummeret er heller ikke givet til Alisson, som nok ville spille i nr.1 :dontknow: ?
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Re: Velkommen til: Fabinho

Indlæg af Scherwin » lørdag, 04. aug, 2018 11:15

DAGGER! skrev:
nikand skrev:Gad vide hvornår Fabinho får sit rigtige nummer? Man har åbenbart ikke ville sælge en masse trøjer med det samme.
"The case has been made even more curious with pictures of Fabinho wearing the No.21 in training - although Alex Oxlade-Chamberain, out for the season, holds that particular number.

Some observers claim he has also worn kit with the No.3, No.6 and No.33 in training.

Numbers worn on training kits should not be considered any sort of guide, of course - but with just over a week to go until the big kick-off against West Ham, confusion still reigns over the Brazilian's real squad number."

Det bli'r op til PRL start d 12-8. Trøjenummeret er heller ikke givet til Alisson, som nok ville spille i nr.1 :dontknow: ?
Alisson har tweeted #AB1 hele tiden.

Tror Fabinho gerne vil have nr 2. men det nummer er holdt af Clyne lige pt.
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Re: Velkommen til: Fabinho

Indlæg af nikand » lørdag, 04. aug, 2018 22:43

Wormie skrev:
DAGGER! skrev:
nikand skrev:Gad vide hvornår Fabinho får sit rigtige nummer? Man har åbenbart ikke ville sælge en masse trøjer med det samme.
"The case has been made even more curious with pictures of Fabinho wearing the No.21 in training - although Alex Oxlade-Chamberain, out for the season, holds that particular number.

Some observers claim he has also worn kit with the No.3, No.6 and No.33 in training.

Numbers worn on training kits should not be considered any sort of guide, of course - but with just over a week to go until the big kick-off against West Ham, confusion still reigns over the Brazilian's real squad number."

Det bli'r op til PRL start d 12-8. Trøjenummeret er heller ikke givet til Alisson, som nok ville spille i nr.1 :dontknow: ?
Alisson har tweeted #AB1 hele tiden.

Tror Fabinho gerne vil have nr 2. men det nummer er holdt af Clyne lige pt.
De numre betyder meget for mange spillere, og så var der Zidane 5 i Madrid og i den anden boldgade st Zamorano som havde nr 9 som skulle af med nummeret til Ronaldo. Ivan Zamorano fik nummer 18 med et lille + imellem 1 og 8.
Problemet med den løsning er at Salah har 1+1.
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Re: 3 - Fabinho

Indlæg af YNWA! » fredag, 10. aug, 2018 18:44

Liverpool FC can now confirm the official squad numbers for new signings Alisson Becker and Fabinho.

Goalkeeper Alisson will wear the No.13 this season following his transfer to the club from AS Roma last month.

The Brazil international has ‘A. Becker’ on his jersey.

Fabinho, who signed from AS Monaco, will wear No.3 for the Reds during his debut campaign.

Rhian Brewster has been given the No.24 shirt.
https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first- ... ad-numbers

Har lavet navnet på tråden om til 3 - Fabinho da det er blevet offentliggjort nu. :army7:

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Re: 3 - Fabinho

Indlæg af STMO » tirsdag, 21. aug, 2018 20:53

Hvad sker der med Fabinho?

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Re: 3 - Fabinho

Indlæg af Filos of Isk » tirsdag, 21. aug, 2018 21:32

STMO skrev:Hvad sker der med Fabinho?
Indtil videre har Klopp begrænset sit rotationsprincip til kun at gælde bænken.

Jeg tror at han får ekstra tid til at falde til og træne i de nye systemer. Samtidig dækker Hendo den samme plads. Hvor Lallana bidrager noget helt andet, så er de taktiske muligheder bedre ved at have Hendo og Lallana end Hendo og Fabinho. Selvom Fabinho pt. givetvis er en bedre fodboldspiller.

For et års tid siden var spekulationen om at Klopp slet ikke ville have Robertson jo allerede startet fordi han stort set ikke spillede.


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Re: 3 - Fabinho

Indlæg af Redtothebone » tirsdag, 21. aug, 2018 21:51

STMO skrev:Hvad sker der med Fabinho?
Det er fremtiden pga en bred trup bliver der alitd gode spiller der ikke er i truppen tænk hvis Lovren og ox var klar, og derudover var Clyne og Solanke heller ikke med i truppen, tror klopp så i preseason at fabinho kræver lidt tid for at tilpasse sig klubben og spillestilen
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Re: 3 - Fabinho

Indlæg af Cynwal » torsdag, 25. okt, 2018 10:31

Var det et lille gennembrud vi så til Fabinho, i kampen igår mod Røde Stjerne? Han fyldte 25 år dagen før kampen (23.oktober) og Klopp sagde på pressemødet efterfølgende:
"Hans fødselsdagsgave var, at vi stillede op i en formation, som passer til ham: Med 2 6'ere" (vi spillede vel nærmest i en 4-2-3-1 afhængig af temperamentet, som bedømmer det). Så Klopp er altså inde på, at Fabinho - i hvertfald indtil videre, og afhængig af udvikling/læring mm. - for nuværende er bedst i en opstilling med 2 stk. "holding midfielders"

Men mon ikke den gode Jürgen skal få lært Fabinho også at brilliere i andre opstillinger. Boldomgangen, agressiviteten (sgu rart med lidt "stål" på midten igen), drevet med bolden og spilforståelsen ser ud til at være der.
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Re: 3 - Fabinho

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Re: 3 - Fabinho

Indlæg af Filos of Isk » torsdag, 25. okt, 2018 11:00

Cynwal skrev:Var det et lille gennembrud vi så til Fabinho, i kampen igår mod Røde Stjerne? Han fyldte 25 år dagen før kampen (23.oktober) og Klopp sagde på pressemødet efterfølgende:
"Hans fødselsdagsgave var, at vi stillede op i en formation, som passer til ham: Med 2 6'ere" (vi spillede vel nærmest i en 4-2-3-1 afhængig af temperamentet, som bedømmer det). Så Klopp er altså inde på, at Fabinho - i hvertfald indtil videre, og afhængig af udvikling/læring mm. - for nuværende er bedst i en opstilling med 2 stk. "holding midfielders"

Men mon ikke den gode Jürgen skal få lært Fabinho også at brilliere i andre opstillinger. Boldomgangen, agressiviteten (sgu rart med lidt "stål" på midten igen), drevet med bolden og spilforståelsen ser ud til at være der.
Helt sikkert, jeg syntes allerede han viste fine takter imod HUddersfield. I det mindste tror jeg da at Fabinho har gjort sig fortjent til en start imod Cardiff på lørdag.

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Indlæg af Hr. Drejer » torsdag, 25. okt, 2018 21:42

Vi har savnet sådan en type siden Masch forlod os. Herligt at vi igen har en hard hitter. Jeg kan specielt li at han med en enkelt aflevering vender spillet fra forsvar til angreb. Det kan give mange mål fremover. Derudover har han også en fysisk størrelse som kompensere lidt for Gini og Keita (som ikke er så høje).
Senest rettet af Hr. Drejer torsdag, 25. okt, 2018 23:30, rettet i alt 1 gang.
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Indlæg af Mads T. » torsdag, 25. okt, 2018 22:31

Så en statistik der vidste at Fabinho spillede bolden fremad mod vores angriber i 33 % af hans afleveringer. For Hendo og Milner (Wijnaldum?) var denne statistik omkring 10 og 12 %. Så det billede mange fik i går af, at han vinder bolde og spiller den fremad holder meget godt vand med hans generelle spille stil.

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Indlæg af Niels K » torsdag, 25. okt, 2018 23:02

Mads T. skrev:Så en statistik der vidste at Fabinho spillede bolden fremad mod vores angriber i 33 % af hans afleveringer. For Hendo og Milner (Wijnaldum?) var denne statistik omkring 10 og 12 %. Så det billede mange fik i går af, at han vinder bolde og spiller den fremad holder meget godt vand med hans generelle spille stil.
Læste det samme, og det er godt nok en anden type 6'er, end der går flest af på literen. 1/3 er voldsomt, og han har samtidig den højeste pasningssikkerhed ! Prøv at se video'en jeg linker til herover, og så kan man se hans skarpe afleveringer - ja, skarphed, hårdhed og forudseenhed i nærmest alle sine aktioner.

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Re: 3 - Fabinho

Indlæg af Niels K » torsdag, 01. nov, 2018 10:35

How Fabinho set the template for Liverpool's midfield.

Liverpool’s 4-1 victory over Cardiff has sparked cause for optimism among its fanbase, not just because it’s the first time Liverpool have put four past an opposition this season – a feat that becomes something of a hobby for Klopp’s team last term.

No, it was also momentous for the full Premier League debut of Fabinho, who arrived from Monaco in the summer for around £40 million and has been noticeable in his absence during the opening months of the season.

“You need to be ready, that’s how it is. At one point I have to make a decision if somebody is ready or not. We’ve already made the decision that he’s the right player for us. Now we have to come together.”
Klopp said of his Brazilian midfielder a few weeks ago; and it’s certainly clear that when he means “ready”, the German isn’t simply looking for someone with a reputation to bring coverage to the midfield. Instead, what Klopp wanted – and Fabinho showed against Cardiff – was the optimal role as the midfield’s base.

It’s been said before: Klopp prefers to prepare his signings, to mould them entirely himself, without subjecting them to the rigours of individual games and to avoid them being pressurised by the intense scrutiny of the football world. At Liverpool, he’s done it with Andy Robertson – and it worked a treat. At Dortmund, he did it with Ilkay Gundogan, and it worked a treat.

Now, if Fabinho’s first two full appearances were anything to go by, it should work out a treat.

It’s not simply about operating as the defensive midfielder, seeing as Klopp has gone on record to say he simply doesn’t want one. Instead, Fabinho’s progressive, forward-thinking performance received plaudits not just because of Liverpool’s dearth of genuine top-class defensive midfield stock since the departure of Javier Mascherano, but because he was the perfect platform for the attack to flourish.

While Xherdan Shaqiri’s first Premier League goal for the Reds and the front three’s return to the attacking dynamism of last season was on everyone’s minds, Fabinho (in conjunction with Gini Wijnaldum and Adam Lallana) compressed any space afforded to Cardiff in the first half, effectively barricading the fifty yards behind Liverpool’s centre-halves.

Given Virgil van Dijk and Joe Gomez’s effectiveness at bringing the ball out from the back, it makes sense to have a fulcrum in front of them who is able to carry the ball through the midfield; and that’s what Fabinho did at Monaco.

Though he is bringing the steel to the heart of midfield – he contested a whopping 24 duels against Red Star Belgrade in the Champions League, winning 18 of them – and allowing Liverpool the ability to win the ball back aerially in midfield and launch an instant counter-attack – aerial balls that have crippled previous Liverpool sides – it’s Fabinho’s eye for a forward pass that is most impressive.

Though the vitriol directed at Jordan Henderson goes overboard, he is clearly not an incisive passer. His trademark is the sweeping switch of play, usually to one of the overlapping fullbacks, and any good defensive structure usually stops that pass from repeating too often. What Fabinho brings is the threat of collecting the ball and driving forwards, laying the ball off to the tucked-in wingers.

During his final season at Monaco, Fabinho completed more dribbles (1.1) than Henderson, Fabinho or Eric Dier, and nearly as many as the “water carrier” of Liverpool’s side last season; Gini Wijnaldum. The Brazilian isn’t merely a classical midfield screen, he’s a lot more than that.

“But he’s a fantastic football player, a good passer, his challenges are good. He’s a proper defensive midfielder with the option of being a number eight as well”
Klopp said of his new midfielder, highlighting a trope of the former Dortmund manager that keeps rearing its head: he requires his players to multi-faceted, three-dimensional, able to adapt and thrive in different circumstances. Just like he requires his centre-halves to both pass and defend, his wingers to press and finish, and his centre-forward to pass and score, he requires his defensive midfielder to be comfortable both pressing and progressing the play.

It shouldn’t worry anyone that Fabinho took this long to find his way into the Liverpool side because patience is probably going to pay off. If the Brazilian can continue to show the progression and steel he displayed in his first two starts, he’ll be on his way to cementing his place in this Liverpool side.

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